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13-03-2014, 09:35 PM
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KierenCrawford
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Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
A standard YX160 has a 57mm Stroke and a 60mm bore
OORACING make various big bore kits for the 2v head and the 4v head right the way up to 67mm making it a 200.96cc But it requires the crank cases being bored to 70mm, What I need to know is how big can you go with the bore before having to bore the crank case?
Cheers Kieren, also is there anyone out there running a yx160 with the 67mm big bore kit and was there a noticeable gain in power?
I ALSO HAVE THE FOLLOWING PARTS THAT IL FIT WHEN I GET THE KIT
VM26 Carb a twin exit WPB exhaust and a 7mm lift cam from OORACING Will these parts be man enough for the big bore kit?
13-03-2014, 09:43 PM
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katoom
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
64mm usually. Tb kits are popular.
Don't bother with a ported 2v or a 4v unless the 4v is a really good make.
A Tb V2 or +R heads are better upgrades and with a better/wider choice of cams.
Try a V2/+R head first, maybe a 64mm kit, see if it's enough, if not, go bigger.
A 26mm carb will hold it back, go 28. Pe/PWK etc.
The twin pipes won't do anything, look great if they're a good make though.
Okay cheers for the info buddy, Who imports the Tboltusa parts? And would there be a noticeable gain fitting a 64mm kit and a 28mm carb from a stock set up ?
Cheers Kieren
13-03-2014, 10:53 PM
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Ashmam06
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
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Originally Posted by KierenCrawford
Okay cheers for the info buddy, Who imports the Tboltusa parts? And would there be a noticeable gain fitting a 64mm kit and a 28mm carb from a stock set up ?
Cheers Kieren
No
13-03-2014, 11:34 PM
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
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Originally Posted by KierenCrawford
Okay cheers for the info buddy, Who imports the Tboltusa parts? And would there be a noticeable gain fitting a 64mm kit and a 28mm carb from a stock set up ?
Cheers Kieren
Try fiddyparts,motosyko and I've notice red circle on eBay are doing some TB stuff also.
I've ran TB 64mm 184cc/v2 head engine with a 28mm carb and it goes quite well.
13-03-2014, 11:50 PM
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Bones
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
Tbolt and TB are 2 different companies, if you want cases bored speak to Jordyroo he has some from his 208 build
14-03-2014, 06:09 AM
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katoom
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
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Originally Posted by KierenCrawford
Okay cheers for the info buddy, Who imports the Tboltusa parts? And would there be a noticeable gain fitting a 64mm kit and a 28mm carb from a stock set up ?
Cheers Kieren
As Bones said. Tbolt and Tb parts are different companies. Tbolt is a USA company, Tb parts can be had thorough various importers. (like some of the site sponsors) lol.
I'd go with the V2/+R head first, S25 cam, maybe piston to suit, (check for clearance) larger manifold and 28mm carb. (proper one, not a cheap one) You'll notice the difference straight away and they'll still work great with further mods. (slight re-jet on the carb)
The BB kit with standard carb fitted first will work, not great though as it will be restricted by the crap standard head. No point spending money on working the standard head, it'll never be as good as a V2/+R. (unless maybe you spend a small fortune on it)
14-03-2014, 11:40 AM
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KierenCrawford
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
Okay cheers for the replys, I'm guessing that the V2 and the +R cylinder heads are pre worked or just better casted heads from two different company's ?
I am also winning a 4v head on eBay at the moment would a 4v with a cam be as good or better than a v2 or +r ? I've heard so much about how they are and aren't better but at the end of it 2 more valves are always better surely
14-03-2014, 12:02 PM
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KierenCrawford
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
What's people's opinion on this kit, Is this a good price or can I get it cheaper else where? And Will it make a noticeable gain in power ?
14-03-2014, 01:51 PM
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katoom
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Re: Yx 160 BIG BORE INFO..
The 4v chink heads aren't very good unless loads of money is spent on them. (hell of a lot) The V2/+R's are better straight out of the box and can be worked on for greater results.
Bigger valves, bigger/better shaped ports, ally roller rockers, and wider choice of cams inc De-comps.
The high compression piston and cam will give you crisper engine response and a motor that is more willing to rev and makes more power everywhere with a better top end pull. The big bore kit by itself will give you a motor with a powerband similar to stock but with the biggest gains mostly in the low end and mid-range.
What a Big Bore Kit Accomplishes. Technically, once installed with all correct and necessary modifications and upgrades you will feel the larger bore and cylinder with one twist of the throttle. Thus, better starts come with the better throttle response you get from having a bigger bore.
In contrast, a big bore cylinder kit gives enhanced performance through power. More specifically, “when you increase the cylinder's bore you increase the surface area on top of the piston…” which “… spreads the fuel/air mixtures workload and produces more power…” (Motocross Action Magazine).
In early testing we found gains as much as 10+Hp with larger throttle body on 140+HP builds. Larger injectors are required in all of these builds, in most M8 applications we typically use 5.5gm injectors which will support up to about 160Hp.
The short answer is that a bigger bore is generally the best way to get more power. It creates more space, allowing for bigger valve openings, which in turn can bring more fuel and air into the cylinder. This doesn't work well at low rpm but does at high rpm. That plays well in to the other factor.
That means more rpm. Similarly, a bigger bore means bigger valves, which means it can take in and push out more air in each cycle. And more air means more power.
The medium-bore refers to calibers with a diameter between . 33 inches up to . 39 inches and large-bore refers to calibers with a diameter of .40 inches or larger.
When you opt for a big bore kit it gives you more horsepower. This may not necessarily equate to more speed but it impacts positively on your scooter's overall performance effectively. An upgrade of big bore kit will definitely ensure that you get better acceleration as a result of an increase in torque.
Keep in mind that even seemingly small changes can have a direct effect on compression. For example, increasing the bore diameter by even just 2mm – from 96 to 98 mm, for example – with no other changes to a the piston, will bump a 13.58:1 compression ratio to 14.05:1, simply because the piston area is now larger.
Whenever a block is bored, new over-size pistons will be required. The common over-bores are 0.030, 0.040, 0.060 inch. Custom pistons can usually be made to almost any size, but generally are two to three times the price of off-the-shelf pieces.
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